Guitars can have an inflated price and sell for more than they are actually worth. There appears to be a lot of this in on-line auctions and on-line guitar advertisements. Too often it really isn't a lawsuit model at all. Often the term "lawsuit guitar" is used to raise the price of the copy, increase interest, or they have misunderstood what the "lawsuit" was all about. Most of the Japanese companies, as a precautionary move, turned away from close copies but many still offered their "version" of the classic American designs with at least minor departures in design and appearance. The lawsuit was not "won" by Norlin, but settled out of court.
These guitars were metric and not an "exact" copy. It was not over the exact copying of body dimensions or construction. The lawsuit was filed In 1977 by Norlin (Gibson's parent company) against Elger/Hoshino (Ibanez's American division) over the use of the "open book" headstock design which Norlin claimed as a Gibson Trademark. It is also commonly said it was over the exact copying of American designs. It is a common misconception that the famous Gibson/Norlin lawsuit was filed against a number of Japanese companies. Matsumoku, as a sub-contractor of Aria (Arai and Company) manufactured instruments including Gibson Epiphone, Skylark, Cutler, Aria, Aria Pro, Aria Diamond and Washburn from 1964 into the mid '80s. Heater Music Company was owned by Norlin. Matsumoku continued to manufacture instruments beyond 1972. Heater Music Company were not part of the lawsuit. This rumor stems from a Gibson (Norlin) lawsuit against manufacturers (specifically Elger the parent company of Ibanez) copying their copyrighted "Open Book" headstock design.
In fact, Norlin never purchased Matsumoku, nor did they shut them down. It has been suggested that "the Matsumoku Company manufactured many Lyle branded guitars in Japan from (approximately) 1965 to 1972 until they were bought and shut down by Norlin, Gibson's parent company at the time". Heater Music Company of Beaverton, Oregon, USA.
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So take a cue from some of those ads I linked.īut if you do run an ad, and when people get in touch, if you say "I don't know anything about guitars." don't expect to get the full potential value.Lyle guitars were distributed in the US solely by the L. From what I've seen, you're probably pre-dates 1968, so saying "mid-60's" would-I believe-be accurate. If you told me you were in a hurry to sell, I might run it for $200 (firm) and make an ad that would attract the types of buyers that like these guitars.įor instance, use the Matsumoku connection, as well as it being the same guitar as the Univox, model HR-2. I might run it at $300, if I wasn't in a hurry to sell it, and might get lucky and get that much. If you have a case, that would be good, to. If you have the complete tremolo, that would be a good thing. I wouldn't give those really high prices on Reverb much credibility they are more like "retail', rather than peer-to-peer, "craigslist" prices. There are other subreddits to look for gear and to sell it, one of which you will find below. This is a subreddit for civil discussion, not hate and trolling.ĭon't pawn your stuff here. If its not your style, you can either convey your distaste respectfully, or not at all.
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